Trouncing the EV Powered by Coal Generated Electricity Argument
Last week someone with EXTENSIVE energy background asked me the following question:
Has anyone compared the amount of CO2 released by making the
electricity to run an electric car to the CO2 released by a
conventional gas engine vehicle? He said: “I bet they
are almost equivalent…”
Well he was really wrong… read on.
My initial reply to him was that our EVs are powered mostly with solar generated electricity, so I knew where my wife and I stood, but I wanted to know more.
Lets not even discuss how much energy might be used to support several wars to protect middle-east supplies.
I should have remembered one of the boards at the Nissan Leaf event at Concord Mills last year:

From the Concord Mills Nissan Leaf Event
So, NOT even considering CO2 released by burning the gasoline, just the energy to make (refine) one gallon of gas can run a Leaf for 30 miles. All this is BACKED UP by the following research, and yes I did check the references…
I look forward to some attempts at rebuttal of the following information.
Here is what I found out for those running a Leaf powered with coal-generated electricity:
First, an email reprinted with permission from the United States Department of Energy:
(note: the following does not count CO2 released by the transportation of gasoline from the refinery to the filling stations… Hence the need to add 1.5 kWh to the 6 calculated below)
Subject: Energy to refine gasoline
Thank you for your electronic mail requesting a reputable source to calculate the energy required to refine a gallon of gasoline. The energy required to refine a gallon of gasoline can be estimated based on the energy content of crude oil and the refinery efficiency of the facility performing the energy conversion; I can provide you a reputable source for both values.
In a 2008 report, Argonne National Lab estimated that the efficiency for producing gasoline of an “average” U.S. petroleum refinery is between 84% and 88% (Wang, 2008), and Oak Ridge National Lab reports that the net energy content of oil is approximately 132,000 Btu per gallon (Davis, 2009). It is commonly known that a barrel of crude oil generate approximately 45 gallons of refined product (refer to NAS, 2009, Table 3-4 for a publication stating so). Thus, using an 85% refinery efficiency and the aforementioned conversion factors, it can be estimated that about 21,000 Btu “the equivalent of 6 kWh” of energy are lost per gallon of gasoline refined:
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The documents referenced herein are publicly available, as follows:
Wang, M. (2008), “Estimation of Energy Efficiencies of U.S. Petroleum Refineries,” Center for Transportation Research, Argonne National Laboratory, http://www.transportation.anl.gov/modeling_simulation/GREET/pdfs/energy_eff_petroleum_refineries-03-08.pdf
Davis, S., Susan W. Diegel, and Robert G. Boundy (2009), Transportation Energy Data Book, edition 28, National Transportation Research Center, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, http://cta.ornl.gov/data/
NAS (2009), Hidden Costs of Energy: Unpriced Consequences of Energy Production and Use, The National Academies Press, http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12794&page=1
It is worth noting that refining one barrel of oil yields gasoline in addition to other products, so only a portion of the refining energy used to refine a barrel of crude is truly attributable to gasoline. Even so, in terms of energy equivalencies, the preceding estimation is valid.
If I may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me. Your interest in energy efficiency at the Department of Energy is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Jake
Jacob Ward
Program Analyst/PMF
Vehicle Technologies Program
Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy
U.S. Department of Energy
Second, Solar Charged Driving ran a really good editorial on this subject as well.
Norby, P. (2011), “Surprise: Gas cars use more electricity than EVs,” Retrieved on 22 January, 2012 from Solar Charged Driving Web site http://www.solarchargeddriving.com/news/scd-editorials/831-surprise-gas-cars-use-more-electricity-than-evs.html
Third, The National Electric Research Laboratory did an extensive report comparing Plugin Hybrid Electric
Vehicles to Gas Powered Vehicles.
Remember that a hybrid still uses gas, but a pure electric vehicle like the Nissan Leaf does not. Results? A Leaf even running from OLD coal emits less than 20 percent of the CO2 released by running a gas powered vehicle, derived by backing CO2 attributed to gasoline from the graph on page 8 (Electric Power Research Institute, 2007)
Electric Power Research Institute (2007), “Environmental Assessment of Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles,” Palo Alto, CA Retrieved 22, January, 2012 from: http://mydocs.epri.com/docs/CorporateDocuments/SectorPages/Portfolio/PDM/PHEV-ExecSum-vol1.pdf
4 Comments to “Trouncing the EV Powered by Coal Generated Electricity Argument”
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By Eric, January 30, 2012 @ 7:27 pm
Cool, I had not seen the Dept. of energy analysis for gasoline refinery carbon intensity. It should probably also include the energy needed to obtain the crude oil…
But to be fair, when looking at electricity generation carbon intensity, we should probably look at things like coal transport, mining operations, etc.
Solar does seem like a simpler calculation in that respect…
By Ken Clifton, January 30, 2012 @ 9:06 pm
Hi Eric!
Thanks for your reply. A quick check of the U.S. Dept. of Energy publications provided a quick answer to your question regarding the CO2 involved in the transport of coal and of oil. Page 52 in the document from the Argonne National Laboratory provided this answer:
4.2.5 Production and Transport Stages Generate a Lower Percentage
of Emissions in Coal Fuel Cycle than in Oil or Gas Fuel Cycles
In the base case for coal (Table D.4), CO2-equivalent emissions from feedstock mining, preparation, and transport are 8% of total fuel-cycle, CO2-equivalent emissions. The corresponding figures for oil and gas are 16% and 14%. This result occurs because it takes more energy to transport oil and gas than coal (p. 52)
Reference
DeLuchi, M.A. (1991) EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES FROM THE USE OF TRANSPORTATION FUELS AND ELECTRICITY, Retrived 30 January, 2012 from University of California Davis Web site: http://www.its.ucdavis.edu/publications/1991/UCD-ITS-RP-91-30.pdf
By Eric, February 9, 2012 @ 12:41 am
Thanks for looking that up! Basically: Trains are efficient transport.
I had been looking at natural gas vs. electric heat pump, and was looking at CO2 intensity comparisons. For electric, the utility does a pretty good job of calculating total emissions, at least once the coal hits the plant. For gas, I just used the carbon content per therm; looks like i need to add at least 14% more in the calculations. Hard to get it all right…
By Ken Clifton, February 9, 2012 @ 5:29 pm
I am sure you are considering the efficiency of a heat pump into your comparison. A good heat pump goes over 100 percent efficiency, and geothermal is even better yet.
I would think it could be hard to beat the electric, but I have been wrong before.